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Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

“The worst single mistake ever made in the history of our country: going into the Middle East, by President Bush.” — Donald Trump

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The banksters need a war desperately right now. They’ve tried so hard in Syria, and it just hasn’t worked. Then they got crazy Trump actually saying we should stay out of the Middle East and focus on our own problems, and people were listening . . . What’s a self-respecting globalist financier to do?

So, they sent their puppets like McCain, Romney, Clinton, and Biden out to talk up the fight against “evil” and threaten Russia, hoping to fool those dumb white ‘Murkins one more time into sending their sons off to die for God and Country and Goldman Sachs.

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this war and Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

Cheerio's avatar

I didn't realize this interview was 3 years ago - it's so poignantly on track with current events! Just WOW Alex Krainer and thanks to Matthew Smith for bringing this into the foreground!

Lloyd Miller's avatar

Alex seems to think economic "surplus" can only be spent by "society" or those who control society. How about each person determining how to spend his share of the surplus (savings) minus the bare necessity needed for reasonable government? Of course, the problem is that individuals with large amounts of the surplus due to successful investment will invest it in CONTROLLING the GOVERNMENT so as to institutionalize their advantages. BTW: The error in Alex' analysis of borrowing and investment is that when there is no central bank nor other institutions like protected fractional reserve banking or legal tender laws, the volume of real money grows very slowly resulting in a decline in prices. Economic surplus is continually realized by reduced prices not increases in "money income." The "people" would have to be very wise to maintain a real money system. The fight against Central Banking started immediately after the American Revolution ended and resulted in TOTAL VICTORY, eventually, for Central Banking. Clearly, creating money out of nothing by whatever device is ESSENTIALLY confiscation of the economic surplus!

Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

“The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.” ― Henry Ford

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“In Washington right next to the Holocaust Museum is the Federal Reserve where they print the money. Is that an accident?” ― Louis Farrakhan

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“I fear the Jewish bankers with their craftiness and torturous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. The Jews will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos so that the earth should become their inheritance.” ― Otto Von Bismark

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/zelensky-biden-satanism-war-greed

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“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.” — G.K. Chesterton

Steve McQ's avatar

Take their money, lock them up, make them eat bugs and give them quarterly shots!!

Absolutely brilliant 🙏❤️

Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

“In Washington right next to the Holocaust Museum is the Federal Reserve where they print the money. Is that an accident?” ― Louis Farrakhan

AwakeningTV2's avatar

I know we are fed a healthy diet of Propaganda on China but what about the social credit score system. This system will only lead down to a dark path.

Dave El's avatar

During the great depression FDR closed the Banks [The Bank Holiday. nice name].

Only certain Banks reopened and took the assets and liabilities of the closed Banks.

So there were winners and losers.

So not everyone got screwed and it was a gradual tightening so the desperate people were too busy scrambling for food and money to fight back. Also it was a Govt run scheme so you had to fight the National Guard Police FBI like we are today. And the winners were busy as well trying to stay ahead.

So do they have the power to do the same again rather than the one off Liquidity Crisis they had planned?.

Sidney Wiener's avatar

There are no good governments,

There are just out & out dictatorships as opposed to so called Democracies with prospering economies & financial Systems!

The dictatorships terrorize their public because they have no prosperity & no 'Bread & Circuses' to keep their people distracted & contented!

The Democracies are those with prosperity on the land which have no need to terrorize their public. These establishments keeps their public contented with the Bread & Circuses that comes with prosperity.The prosperity itself has little to do with the government,but comes from the increases in technology & productivity!

As Tip O'Neill said,"All Politics is Local''

If the public is well fed & contented on a local level,

it doesn't care what the politicians do! In fact the public doesn't want to know!

retka's avatar

In American DoubleSpeak, a "dictatorship" is any country that opposes the American Empire and its Rules-Based Imperial Order, while a "democracy" is any country that is a vassal or ally of the American Empire and its Rules-Based Imperial Order.

That is why Apartheid Israel--America's BFF--is called the only "Western democracy in the Middle East" even though it has been waging de facto siege warfare against Palestinians for decades. And the USA calls itself the "world's leading democracy" even though it has a massive prison population greater than the Soviet gulag.

As for prosperity coming from technology and productivity, that is a libertarian fairy tale.

America's so-called prosperity comes from American Dollar Imperialism in which the US Dollar as the World's Only Reserve Currency allows the USA to live beyond its means and devour goods and products from the rest of the world in exchange for worthless IOUs that the USA will never repay.

As Vladimir Putin put it best, the United States of America is a parasite on the global economy.

Putin says U.S. is "parasite" on global economy

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-usa/putin-says-u-s-is-parasite-on-global-economy-idUSTRE77052R20110801

Dave El's avatar

That's what I am saying. Divide and conquer. Keep one half happy while you f### the other half.

Like they have done throughout history.

They won't screw the Japanese Govt they will screw the little guy over and over.

Godfree Roberts's avatar

Those 12 unique characteristics of Western society are only unique if you haven’t studied chinese culture and believe the nonsense that our media publish

dornoch altbinhax's avatar

Yes, the Austrian school and others live in a fairy tale without "the state". "Free markets" without government, ditto these other confabulations. As soon as Doug opened his mouth with this nonsense I lost interest. At least Alex was able to politely counter this erroneous stuff. You'd think that by now people would be familiar with Michael Hudson and David Graeber's work on antiquity and debt.

Godfree Roberts's avatar

Doug is like many experts.

He's careful when he's in his zone and knows the pitfalls, but relies on MSM for 'extraneous' things like knowledge about China.

Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol X – Preparing for Power . . . (((SARS-CoV2)))

❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissention, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by the inoculation of diseases. by want, so that the “Goyim” see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and in all else.❞

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocol-x-preparing-for-power-sars

Mona Mistric's avatar

Inflation is a secret tax.

No One Knows's avatar

looked it up ... correct title of Hudson's book is the Collapse of Antiquity

Matt Smith @ Crisis Investing's avatar

Correct. Thanks for posting this.

I noticed the same and I meant to clarify that before the end of the podcast. But I forgot.

Helmsman's avatar

Most interesting conversation I've listened to recently, thanks for sharing!

Cheerio's avatar

Superb!

Sandra ---'s avatar

Excellent discussion and guest! I really appreciated the discussion toward the very end about The Great Taking. I hope and pray the both of you are right in that it's too risky, how could they pull it off without pissing a lot of people off, especially the police and military. But at the same time, who would have thought they would be able to pull off a fake pandemic and terrorize the populations of the world into taking bioweapon injections?

But maybe The Great Taking is just one of their plans- I know that over at Corey's Digs there is an article about the BIS plan to tokenize all assets, with the banking cartel getting the asses and the slaves getting the tokens. George Gammon has also talked about the BIS tokenization plan and his video is embedded in Corey's article. And Iain Davis has an article, something like "Seizing Control Over the Global Commons" and these psychos are basically declaring themselves masters of the planet.

William Pritting's avatar

The Great Taking, a book written about the scheme of central bankers to subjugate humanity by taking all securities, bank deposits, and property financed with debt.



YouTube Video:

https://youtu.be/IIoGu692a64?si=cZvadLTTOZLOr1Mp



Free Online Book:

https://thegreattaking.com/

YouTube Video:


https://youtu.be/IIoGu692a64?si=cZvadLTTOZLOr1Mp

https://www.globalresearch.ca/great-taking-they-plan-own-all/5834686

Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

“The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.” ― Henry Ford

Sandra ---'s avatar

Also, in Mike's video on The Great Taking, he said something interesting about how people in the UK don't really own their own homes/property because after the bankers burned down London in 1666, they put all of the property in a land trust, such that the govt owns the property, and the people get the benefit of using it (kind of like the legislation they put in place with the securities). Anyway, after hearing that, it reminded me of this book I read years ago, which seems to say the same thing (we don't own what we think we own and are just beneficiaries and get to use it, like live in our house and drive our car):

They Own It All (Including You!) By Means of Toxic Currency https://archive.org/details/TheyOwnEverythingIncludingYou/mode/2up

Here's more info on the book here http://newpeopleorder.com/

And I think there's more to it, maybe something along the lines of since we are using their units of debt (Federal Reserve Notes) to pay for things we don't really own what we think we own--it was an interesting read, I'm not 100% convinced, though anything is possible--the banking cartel seems to have so many tricks and deceptions. I know Greg Mannario has said something similar.

William Pritting's avatar

When the time comes, what will determine who owns what will be decided by which direction those in uniform point their weapons....either at us, We the People, or at them, those who think they have the authority to take our possessions. Of course, all will be lost when those in uniform are replaced with armed robots.

Uh oh....

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2022/10/armys-big-convention-was-full-armed-robots/378435/

https://youtu.be/gdq-tW4GsKs?si=NYErFxY3yxRglV2v

Sandra ---'s avatar

Good chatting with you--we seem to read the same substacks!

William Pritting's avatar

I’m also on Facebook (Bill Pritting) and MeWe.com (William Pritting).

Sandra ---'s avatar

Yes, since you mentioned it, I've kind of had the feeling that they have a plan for the police. I recall Kamala saying something like "we have to re-imagine policing" and whenever they say "re-imagine" I assume they are up to something.

And early on in the covid psyop, RFK Jr. was on instagram writing about what the future would look like with regard to policing (I've heard him say he's read the patents, so I'm assuming that's where this is coming from versus him just imagining this):

"Bill Gates Wants to Chip Us and Not Only for Vaccines - for Surveillance and Transhumanism Using #5G I wrote last week about Malibu police’s ticketing Point Dume surfers $1,000 apiece for using the ocean during the quarantine. Was this merely an appalling police judgment at which we will laugh post-quarantine? Or does anyone else feel that this is the first wave of compliance and obedience training for something more permanent? Are powerful state and corporate entities using the current crisis to remove basic rights and intensify pressures to promote vaccines and surveillance? Does anyone else feel the suffocating darkness of tyranny descending on our nation? And finally, does anyone share my dread that #BillGates — and his Mini-Me, Tony #Fauci — will somehow be running our Brave New World?

Imagine a world where the government doesn’t need police officers to apprehend those surfers or ticket you when you violate social distancing with your girlfriend. Suppose that computers discover your beach trip by tracking your movements using a stream of information from your cell phone, your car GPS, facial recognition technology integrated with real-time #surveillance from satellites, mounted cameras, and implanted chips. Desk-bound prosecutors or robots will notify you of your violation by text while simultaneously withdrawing your $1,000 penalty in cryptocurrency from your payroll account. Welcome to Bill Gates’ America. It’s right around the corner. … continued on slide 2."

Also, fwiw, Alison McDowell (excellent Philly mom researcher on the Great Reset) has talked about them doing geofencing--I think they may want to get a chip in us. And Catherine Austin Fitts has definitely talked about geofencing in terms of they will simply program your "money" to only work within a 5 mile radius.

fwiw - Gary Barnett over at lewrockwell has been a good one to read throughout all of this--and he's basically saying there has to be a global revolution.

This plot has been going on for centuries. Almost feels like these people aren't human--we're up against a level of evil that's hard to wrap your head around. If you tell normies about this, they will think you are insane because the plot is so evil, nobody believes it could possibly be true, which I think is why they have been able to get so far along with their plot. There's a J. Edgar Hoover quote on this, but not sure if it is for real and about this NWO/Great Reset https://www.azquotes.com/author/6877-J_Edgar_Hoover

William Pritting's avatar

Do you follow Technocracy News?

https://www.technocracy.news/

Scroll all the way down to near the bottom for the list of topics.

DHS Fusion Centers:

https://www.technocracy.news/?s=DHS+fusion+centers

The Police State:

https://www.technocracy.news/category/police-state/

Sandra ---'s avatar

Yes, I subscribe to him. I actually first found him years ago at that Phyllis Schaefly Eagle forum when he was warning about the smart grid and how they want to hook us all up.

Sandra ---'s avatar

Yes, I've read it and have been dropping links all over too!

And that video with Mike @Parallel Systems is probably the best one on the book (his #25 Central Banking Scam and his City of London videos were also very good--he should have more subscribers IMO)

Also, fwiw, attorney and author of Web of Debt, Ellen Brown, wrote an article on it:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/great-taking-they-plan-own-all/5834686

Back to Alex Krainer, he's definitely more optimistic than I am about the American people--most here are completely brainwashed and haven't even heard of The Great Reset and had no problem with the covid tyranny.

Steffen's avatar

Alex said, that he is slightly more optimistic for the US than he is for Europe.

Being from Denmark I agree completely. As bad as the situation is in the US, it is worse in Europe.

Matt Smith @ Crisis Investing's avatar

Yes. “Parallel Mike” did the best job explaining the great taking on video. His presentation was a catalyst in raising awareness of the situation.

JD Breen's avatar

Great discussion with interesting perspectives worth consideration. I particularly appreciate his idea for how to handle the “elite” creeps trying to ruin our lives.

William Pritting's avatar

The only good guys are Trump and his America First MAGA Patriot supporters. Anyone who is an advocate, proponent and adherent of UN Agenda 21/2030 is an enemy of humanity, and Comrade Xi Jingping and all of the BRICS+ Nations, plus all of the WEF+BIS+NATO members are all advocates, proponents and adherents of UN Agenda 21/2030.

UN Agenda 21/2030 = Globalist Neo-Feudal Technocratic One-World Imperialism.

Sandra ---'s avatar

Were you the one who posted the link to Tarpley's book: https://lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-Life/AgainstOligarchy/AgainstOligarchy.pdf

If so, thanks. I just started reading it--very good, interesting read on the Venetian bankers mentioned by Alex. (I've listened to Tarpley and other's talks on the Venetian bankers and how they took over England/City of London, but it's great to have the book)

William Pritting's avatar

Yes. I was disappointed to learn that Tarpley suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

You might also find LaRouche’s American Almanac to be enlightening, except it might have just been deleted!

http://american_almanac.tripod.com/contents.htm

https://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/contents.htm#program

http://american_almanac.tripod.com/takeover.htm

William Pritting's avatar

Do you subscribe to Awaken with JP Sears.

I love his political satire!

https://youtube.com/@AwakenWithJP?si=XZJqwPMUG5ssEJdE

Sandra ---'s avatar

Yes, I'm not sure what happened to Tarpley--he was so good during the Obama years. I'm not completely clear on this, but I recall him writing about Melania being a prostitute in the past (something like that), so he was obviously sued by Trump. And from there it's been full on TDS--I could be wrong, but now I think he's cheering for Ukraine/NATO, which is sad to see when he used to be so good (I remember him right away questioning the BS about Assad and Syria and he was RIGHT!)

Thanks for those links--I'll check them out. I've looked through Larouche's info and American Almanac, and generally find them on target and insightful. I think they have been right all along in saying that the British (City of London) Empire never died and is what we are up against today.

Sandra ---'s avatar

Yes, all nations have been captured by the banking cartel and are on board with global governance and UN Agenda 2030. The bankers always control both sides.

rocco scocco's avatar

great perspectives discovered here today, this may resonate for years...

FlyingDad's avatar

I think that the idea that China and Russia are the “good guys” is seriously misguided. You can’t overlook the atrocities of those nations. Chairman Mao and his slaughter of millions of his own people, the continuing slaughter and then harvesting of human organs from political, social opponents and dissidents, these things alone make China an enemy of mankind in general. Same thing for the former USSR and Stalin and his purges that killed millions. As far as Russia, I think we also need to see things from their perspective over Ukraine. We in the US, Europe and NATO and the bloated military industrial complex, are becoming the next slaughtering monsters of the world as well. I think a complete break up of any and all alliances and “nation blocks” would be in the best interest of the world’s populations as a whole, especially if the countries are engaged in their own populism which engages each of their own strengths and can flourish in civil liberties. Government is a necessary evil, but being evil, it should be held to a finely balanced minimum, something that as we can see in the US and Europe, that has gotten seriously out of control. I think our most positive outcome could be the bankruptcy of ALL overextended governments and hopefully a forced downsizing of governments around the globe with our current rise of populism. That’s my optimistic outlook anyhow.

Matt Smith @ Crisis Investing's avatar

I took it as more of a rhetorical point to demonstrate that the west are the bad guys. Several veteran friends of GWOT came to the same conclusion.

I don't think government is a necessary evil. The world would be better without them. We won't get that utopia, unfortunately.

I think it's important to separate a couple things you mentioned to ensure we don't get swept up in a narrative that undermines clear thinking.

First separate the past from the present. Stalin and Mao were awful but they are long dead. The US enslaved blacks, but I sure don't see that as part of the America I grew up in. Or even the America of today. I would hope others wouldn't judge me, as an american, by the fact that atrocity occurred in the same country I was born in. Likewise, while Biden is an imbecile and disgrace, it'd be bizarre to NOT overlook slavery when evaluating him.

Second, how much do you know about China? I mean, how much do you know that wasn't served up and fed to you by the same media that we know has fed us so many untruths? I'm sure you remember the Chinese "spy balloon". It got americans all fired up. Months later the pentagon admitted that the balloon neither collected or transmitted any sensitive data. Most american's still believe the stories about the enormous breach of security and brazen act of espionage. It was all nonsense. all of it.

I have friends that live in China right now. For the grand narrative "China is the number one threat to mankind" to be true, they must be lying or totally oblivious. I assure you, they are awake and worthy of trust. Most will think. That doesn't make sense. Maybe the great chinese firewall has them so frightened that they just won't utter a bad word online?

Two months ago I met with one of them, an American from the midwest. He lived in China for years, but left in the uncertainty of Covid. He speaks the language. He has businesses there. Shortly after our social get-together he went back to China. This man who could live anywhere he wants said, "that's where I want to be. I would have had it better if I hadn't left." We communicate regularly and the picture there is not as presented.

Just food for thought.

FlyingDad's avatar

In addition, I do not watch mainstream media as it is truly a waste of time. I get my news from “Coffee & COVID” and other independent online outlets. I don’t think that Russia and China are “the bad guys” either. As far as I’m concerned, we in the West are definitely on the wrong side of the conflict in Ukraine, a conflict of our own making with the Obama Administration, Victoria Nuland and our intelligence agencies instigating the whole Maiden revolution in 2014. As far as China, I don’t believe that they are looking to take over the world. I also didn’t get riled up about Chinese Spy ballon’s last year, it seemed a bogus story from the start. Our own insane government funded the Wuhan Lab, in conjunction with China and thus created the pandemic ourselves. I think we can mutually agree that all governments are bad news.

Matt Smith @ Crisis Investing's avatar

Complete agreement on that front and I’m sure much more.

FlyingDad's avatar

I agree as far as there have been atrocities committed in our own country’s history, I don’t overlook that either, I also don’t buy the latest narratives in current media focused on our history and twisting that history in self serving ways. As far as Biden, I detest the man and especially his left wing insane party. Biden truly represents the most corrupt and bloated our government has ever been. I agree, having no government would be ideal but that would rely on mutually agreed morals and principles, which I have hope may be more common that I thought. I may not know as much about China and maybe your friend who lives there has a much better perspective on the country as a whole, but I would also hazard a guess that he also knows the ever present consequences of finding himself in disagreement with the CCP. It’s the same CCP that produced Mao. That alone would give me pause about doing business there. Unfortunately, here at home we are seeing more and more of the same threat only it seems to stem from large and powerful corporations in partnership with government. Our best hope is that ALL governments get slashed to their absolute minimum, eventually hard economic truths do prevail.

Matt Smith @ Crisis Investing's avatar

Agreed. No state will tolerate something it deems a threat.

Sandra ---'s avatar

"China is the number one threat to mankind"

Some are able to see through the BS from the weaponized media, but most Americans are utterly clueless, constantly looking for an outside enemy as their own captured government is waging war on them and literally trying to kill them with bioweapon injections.